Re: Islam and Career Fw: Re: :|: MHO :|: DISCRIMATION??--SPARE FEW MINUTES TO READ THIS

Yes This is right Mr. Haider Ali,

 

Regards,

Shabbir Ahmed

 

On 1/19/09, Haider Ali <haiderali145@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Dear All,
 I have been silent member and have been going through this debate of Islam propagating Terrorism and was forced to react after reading the following quotes

•  "in last 3 decades most of the terror attacks have been carried out by Muslims (eg 9/11 and recent 26/11 attacks)" &
• "Quran propogates terrorism and Islam terrorism in it's many passages."
• Making an allegation that Holy Quran is not a divine relevation.

Now without offending anyone I would just like to say the following

• An arabic name does not mean a person is Muslim. To be a Muslim one has to follow all the provisions of Islam which also Include "Living in Peace with other", allowing other to practice their religion as per their customs and ritual. (All this is Stated in Holy Quran).
• Yes Holy Quran does call for war but only as the last resort ie when all the other measures fail and war is the only way out to defend yourself. Again war must always be fought in a defensive mode and not in offensive mode. There have been numerous passages in Quran where it call for peaceful co-existance with others irrespective of their religion, cast, creed or color. But no one will mention that because it's a more of a war against Islam rather than Terrorism.
• Violence has been condemned in the strictest sense in Holy Quran but again no one will mention that.

One must make a through study about a religion and its texts before making a comment about it. To know any religion in it's pure form one must study the character of its founder/avatars/etc. That is to understand Hinduism one must refer to the character of "Rama" and not  'Ravana" who claims to be hindu but did nothing worhty of being called a Hindu.
To understand Christianity one must refer to the life of "Jesus" who gave his life for humanity.
Therefore to understand Islam refer to the life of our "Prophet" and not some Osama Bin Laden.

Lastly we can go on and on, on criticizing and finding differences between us and other. What we need is to bring out similarities within disparities only that will help us understand each other,
I hope this will clearify the misconceptions about any religion and will help people to understand things in a better and harmonial way.

Regards,
Haider Ali






 

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From: Bharat Raval <b_raval11@yahoo.com>
To: Mumbai Hangout <MumbaiHangout@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Sriram Savarkar <sriram.savarkar@gmail.com>; dolly quaraishi <dollyquraishi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2009 12:01:11
Subject: Islam and Career Fw: Re: :|: MHO :|: DISCRIMATION??--SPARE FEW MINUTES TO READ THIS

Dear sriram dolly and all   The representation by dolly is truly excelelnt and modest too !!   Specific part of Muslims is fanatic and behind the terror is fact and it has nothing to do with Isalm Religion is equally true.   The insurgent elements are so dominating that they target/kill even muslims who do not support or follow them. As per news in SWAT valley innocent are killed btutally ......by whom ?   Also the history has limited relevance here because now we have science age.....global views and careers and opportunities to earn and learn. Thise who withdraw have to loose only.   In Islamic world scholars and learned people are isolated as those who run different kind of nop 2 businesses have again nothing to do with Isalm but they Gominate and use terror to calm down.   I only see a remedy that all Muslims ashould separate such Nasur from thei community and punish them as per their laws. Otherwise we shall see wars and wars ..........all over     Bharat     Execellent information. .. Here, I would like to add that, the majority of the terrorist acts of the last three decades, including the 9/11 attacks, were perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists in the name of Islam. Any decent Muslims human, find it abhorrent that Islam is used to murder millions of innocent people, Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Unfortunately, Islamic religious texts, including the Koran and the Hadith contain many passages, which call for Islamic domination and incite violence against non-Muslims. It is time to change that. Muslim fundamentalists believe that the Koran is the literal word of Allah. But could Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, command mass slaughter of people whose only fault is being non-Muslim? Islam, in its present form, is not compatible with principles of freedom and democracy. Twenty-first century Muslims have two options:  Muslims can continue the barbaric policies of the seventh century perpetuated by Hassan al-Banna, Abdullah Azzam, Yassir Arafat, Ruhollah Khomeini, Osama bin Laden, Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda, Hizballah, Hamas, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, etc., leading to a global war between Dar al-Islam (Islamic World) and Dar al-Harb (non-Islamic World), or You can reform Islam to keep your rich cultural heritage and to cleanse our religion from the reviled relics of the past. Any, Muslims who desire to live in harmony with people of other religions, agnostics, and atheists choose the latter option. They can no longer allow Islamic extremists to use Islam  religion as a weapon. Todays Muslims must protect future generations of Muslims from being brainwashed by the Islamic radicals. If you do not stop the spread of Islamic fundamentalism, your children will become homicidal zombies. SRIRAM SAVARKAR On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:55 PM, dolly quraishi <dollyquraishi@ yahoo.com> wrote: Why blame Islam?   Individuals, not religions, carry out inhuman acts.    Islam is a religion of peace, accepted and practiced by more than 1.25 billion people worldwide. It is the fastest-growing religion in the world, and if it was what some critics claim, why should the people from all walks of life from around the world keep embracing Islam? Where is the sword now?   In Islam, a person has the right to defend himself, his family, his country or his neighbor(s), which justifies the resistance being offered by the people of Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Iraq, Kashmir and Palestine, to attacks on their soils by the so-called liberators, who are actually the occupiers.   The Holy Qur'an clearly states that if a person saves one life, it's as if he saved humanity, and if a person kills one human being, it's as if he killed humanity.   What is happening in the enslaved Muslim countries is a natural reaction to occupation, bombings, killing and terrorizing of innocent civilians (children, old men and women), rapes, in addition to looting of resources, national antiques and artifacts, above all the destruction of their property by the occupiers.   Terror breeds terror.   We assure those who bash Islam that if there was no occupation in this world by foreign invaders, there would be no resistance – the so-called terror.   We would like those who criticize Islam to explain the following acts committed by the Christians on Jews, other Christians and Muslims alike, throughout history:   - Hundreds of thousands of Muslim men, women and children killed by the crusaders, who were Christians.   - Inquisition of Jews and Muslims from Spain by Queen Isabella, a Christian.   - Millions of people killed by the European and American Christians during the two world wars and the civil wars.   - Atrocities committed on millions of Jews and Christians by Adolph Hitler, a professed Christian.   - Hundreds of thousands of Christians killed every year by the Irish Christians, including the British and the IRA, both Catholics and Protestants, during the past few centuries. Why they are not blamed to be "Christian Terrorists, or Catholic Terrorists, or Protestant Terrorists?"   Both of them believe in Jesus Christ, who told them to turn the other cheek, and both of them believe in the same Lord, Who commanded that "Thou shall not kill." Period.    -         Timothy McVeigh, who bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, OK, in the United States of America, was a Catholic. Are all Catholics terrorists?   For more than sixty (60) years, the Zionists are actively involved in the genocide of a whole nation, killing a number of Muslims in the occupied territories of Palestine on a daily basis with machine guns, missiles from helicopters, tanks, and bombs from F16s, under the watch of the western countries, the so-called champions of the human rights. How do you explain that?   Just by labeling the freedom fighters as terrorists and launching another holocaust on the poor Palestinians as revenge will not wipe out the crimes or the guilt of Hitler! Where are the justice, equality, freedom, and above all the human tights of Palestinians, dead or alive, propagated by these champions of human rights?   Last but not least, the bombings, killings, lynching, murders and raping of innocent Native American Indians and black slaves (Afro-Americans) committed by the so-called Christians in the United States during the past 200 years of history. What about them?   Will those filled with hate for Islam blame Christianity for the above inhuman acts by Christians in various parts of the world since its inception?   If not, then why are they blaming the religion of Islam for what is a natural reaction to occupation of Muslim countries by foreign invaders?   Most importantly, these folks should know that the three (3) great Abrahamic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – have one common basis, and that is one God Almighty.   "All men (and women) are created equal, and we all are one nation under Almighty God," is a clear cut statement according to the Holy Qur'an and is very well elucidated in the Constitution of these United States, one of the champions of the human rights.   Lastly, yet importantly, as brothers in humanity, we recommend those Islamophobists filled with prejudice to get life and an education in the history of Islam and Muslims, before they dare to write nasty letters, articles, and news releases, using out of context verses from the Holy Qur'an and distorted statements from the true traditions of our Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him), full of personal, ingrain hate and vendetta against Islam and Muslims.   We would be pleased to provide anyone with free copies of the Holy Qur'an and Islamic literature in English or any other language, which would help them to understand the truth about Islam and Muslims and get rid of all hate from their systems, God willing.   May God Almighty show the light to all those, who believe in one mankind, as children of Adam and Eve, hence brothers and sisters, no matter what they believe in, Amen.   "The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do." - Samuel P. Huntington (author The Clash Of Civilisations)

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